Most of these files are old, so use old code: but they all work and some are simpler than others. Any voluteers to put a usefulness/difficulty rating on them, greatfully received Any futher examples you've found (coding tutorials links) add to the forum, or send to me for upload Most of these files are old, so use old code: but they all work and some are simpler than others. Some of need ditching as they are too old or too complex (without comments) Any voluteers to put a usefulness/difficulty rating on them, greatfully received Any futher examples you've found (coding tutorials links) add to the forum, or send to me for upload A lot are simply covered better elsewhere. Googling and using Flash Livedocs is quite likely to turn up some other way of achieving the same ends